The last time you felt completely free. The last time you laughed, so hard. The last time the world seemed magical. How it felt when you were surprised by a simple pleasure.

These are the kinds of things Brooklyn-based designer and writer Ingrid Fetell Lee wants to know about in her workshops, an extension of her book Joyful: The Surprising Power of Ordinary Things to Create Extraordinary Happiness. Lee has found that people lose touch with the feeling of joy entirely; we don’t even really register the fleeting moments when they come. Her goal: to help you find that feeling again and learn practical ways to bring it to the surface as often as possible.

And if it all seems silly or juvenile to you, you’re not alone—that’s part of our culture. But sometimes, says Fetell Lee, feeling childish works.

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